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		<title>Comment on Telling Lies: Did Fraud Kill Megan Meier? by Danny Vice</title>
		<link>http://instantreviewweb.com/?p=9#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Vice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 03:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Wednesday, October 21st, city officials enacted an ordinance designed to address the public outcry for justice in the Megan Meier tragedy. The six member Board of Aldermen made Internet harassment a misdemeanor, punishable by up to a $500 fine and 90 days in jail.

Does this new law provide any justice for Megan? Does this law provide equitable relief for a future victim or actually weaken the current law?

I reject the premise of this new law and believe it completely misses the mark. The reasoning behind this opinion is that city officials have consistently treated this case as an Internet harassment case instead of a child welfare/exploitation case.

Classifying this case a harassment issue completely fails to address the most serious aspects of the methods Lori Drew employed to lead this youth to her demise. The Vice disagrees that harassment was even a factor in this case until just a couple of days before Megan's death.

Considering this case a harassment issue is incorrect because during the 5 weeks Lori Drew baited and groomed her victim, the attention was NOT unwanted attention. It was not harassment at all. It was invited attention. Megan participated in the conversations willingly because she was lured, manipulated and exploited without her knowledge.

This law willfully sets a precedent that future child exploiters and predators can use to reclassify their cases to harassment issues. In effect, the law enacted to give Megan justice, may make her even more vulnerable. So long as the child victim doesn't tell the predator to stop, even a harassment charge may not stick with the right circumstances and a good defender.

Every aspect of this case follows the same procedural requirement used to convict a Child Predator. A child was manipulated by an adult. A child was engaged in sexually explicit conversation (as acknowledged by Lori Drew herself). An adult imposed her will on a child by misleading her, using a profile designed to sexually or intimately attract the 13 year old Megan.

Lori then utilized the power she had gained over this child to cause significant distress and endangerment to that child. She even stipulated to many of these activities in the police report she filed shortly after Megan's death.

We can go on and on here, but the parallels between this case and many other child predator cases that are successfully prosecuted bear striking similarities.

Child Predator laws do not require much more than simply proving that an adult has engaged a minor in sexually explicit conversation. Lori Drew has already stipulated that her conversations with Megan were sometimes sexual for a child Megan's age.

City officials who continue to ignore this viable, documented admission and continue to address this issue as harassment are intentionally burying their heads in the sand, when the solution is staring them right in the face. Why?

On June 5th, 2006, Governor Matt Blunt signed into law stiff penalties for convicted sex offenders. The Vice believes that officials continually reject a child predator classification of this case in order to keep the penalty of this offense out of this harsher realm.

Opponents of this law are active in defeating this law not by changing it, but by disqualifying cases like Megan's from ever being heard.

There are several other child exploitation laws on the books. To date, none of them have even been considered by City, State and Federal officials in this case. I'm outraged that a motion was never even filed, so that the case could at least be argued before a judge or jury.

Those satisfied with this response out of Missouri officials need to think through the effect this law will truly have.   It quite honestly has the potential to directly undermine Jessica's law.   It quiet easily gives prosecutors a way out of prosecuting child endangerment and child predator cases in the future.

Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing here.

Danny Vice
http://weeklyvice.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Wednesday, October 21st, city officials enacted an ordinance designed to address the public outcry for justice in the Megan Meier tragedy. The six member Board of Aldermen made Internet harassment a misdemeanor, punishable by up to a $500 fine and 90 days in jail.</p>
<p>Does this new law provide any justice for Megan? Does this law provide equitable relief for a future victim or actually weaken the current law?</p>
<p>I reject the premise of this new law and believe it completely misses the mark. The reasoning behind this opinion is that city officials have consistently treated this case as an Internet harassment case instead of a child welfare/exploitation case.</p>
<p>Classifying this case a harassment issue completely fails to address the most serious aspects of the methods Lori Drew employed to lead this youth to her demise. The Vice disagrees that harassment was even a factor in this case until just a couple of days before Megan&#8217;s death.</p>
<p>Considering this case a harassment issue is incorrect because during the 5 weeks Lori Drew baited and groomed her victim, the attention was NOT unwanted attention. It was not harassment at all. It was invited attention. Megan participated in the conversations willingly because she was lured, manipulated and exploited without her knowledge.</p>
<p>This law willfully sets a precedent that future child exploiters and predators can use to reclassify their cases to harassment issues. In effect, the law enacted to give Megan justice, may make her even more vulnerable. So long as the child victim doesn&#8217;t tell the predator to stop, even a harassment charge may not stick with the right circumstances and a good defender.</p>
<p>Every aspect of this case follows the same procedural requirement used to convict a Child Predator. A child was manipulated by an adult. A child was engaged in sexually explicit conversation (as acknowledged by Lori Drew herself). An adult imposed her will on a child by misleading her, using a profile designed to sexually or intimately attract the 13 year old Megan.</p>
<p>Lori then utilized the power she had gained over this child to cause significant distress and endangerment to that child. She even stipulated to many of these activities in the police report she filed shortly after Megan&#8217;s death.</p>
<p>We can go on and on here, but the parallels between this case and many other child predator cases that are successfully prosecuted bear striking similarities.</p>
<p>Child Predator laws do not require much more than simply proving that an adult has engaged a minor in sexually explicit conversation. Lori Drew has already stipulated that her conversations with Megan were sometimes sexual for a child Megan&#8217;s age.</p>
<p>City officials who continue to ignore this viable, documented admission and continue to address this issue as harassment are intentionally burying their heads in the sand, when the solution is staring them right in the face. Why?</p>
<p>On June 5th, 2006, Governor Matt Blunt signed into law stiff penalties for convicted sex offenders. The Vice believes that officials continually reject a child predator classification of this case in order to keep the penalty of this offense out of this harsher realm.</p>
<p>Opponents of this law are active in defeating this law not by changing it, but by disqualifying cases like Megan&#8217;s from ever being heard.</p>
<p>There are several other child exploitation laws on the books. To date, none of them have even been considered by City, State and Federal officials in this case. I&#8217;m outraged that a motion was never even filed, so that the case could at least be argued before a judge or jury.</p>
<p>Those satisfied with this response out of Missouri officials need to think through the effect this law will truly have.   It quite honestly has the potential to directly undermine Jessica&#8217;s law.   It quiet easily gives prosecutors a way out of prosecuting child endangerment and child predator cases in the future.</p>
<p>Beware the wolf in sheep&#8217;s clothing here.</p>
<p>Danny Vice<br />
<a href="http://weeklyvice.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://weeklyvice.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Telling Lies: Did Fraud Kill Megan Meier? by A message from Tina Meier</title>
		<link>http://instantreviewweb.com/?p=9#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>A message from Tina Meier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 01:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Megan's mom, Tina Meier, and I wanted to update everyone on the details for the candlelight vigil for Saturday, November 24, 2007.

     *We are meeting at 6:00 p.m. at the Fort Zumwalt West Middle school parking lot.

     *Please bring a candle, cup to hold the candle and something to light the candle.  (If you cut a small X in the bottom of the cup, you can slide the candle through it and then you won't have wax dripping on you)

     *We will then light the candle's shortly after 6:00 p.m. and start walking from the school down Waterford crystal drive towards Megan's house and end up in front of the Drew's house.

     *There is a common ground area across the street and we will have pa system and microphone.  if anyone would like to speak, read a poem, etc., they are more than welcome.

     *This wonderful idea came from students who wanted to see justice for Megan and for that we are so happy.  Nothing we can do will bring Megan back, but we can all learn from Megan and take a part of her with us everyday for the rest of our lives to try to be a better person and think about things we say to people before we say them!

*****Remember this is a peaceful candlelight vigil******
We hope to see everyone there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Megan&#8217;s mom, Tina Meier, and I wanted to update everyone on the details for the candlelight vigil for Saturday, November 24, 2007.</p>
<p>     *We are meeting at 6:00 p.m. at the Fort Zumwalt West Middle school parking lot.</p>
<p>     *Please bring a candle, cup to hold the candle and something to light the candle.  (If you cut a small X in the bottom of the cup, you can slide the candle through it and then you won&#8217;t have wax dripping on you)</p>
<p>     *We will then light the candle&#8217;s shortly after 6:00 p.m. and start walking from the school down Waterford crystal drive towards Megan&#8217;s house and end up in front of the Drew&#8217;s house.</p>
<p>     *There is a common ground area across the street and we will have pa system and microphone.  if anyone would like to speak, read a poem, etc., they are more than welcome.</p>
<p>     *This wonderful idea came from students who wanted to see justice for Megan and for that we are so happy.  Nothing we can do will bring Megan back, but we can all learn from Megan and take a part of her with us everyday for the rest of our lives to try to be a better person and think about things we say to people before we say them!</p>
<p>*****Remember this is a peaceful candlelight vigil******<br />
We hope to see everyone there!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Telling Lies: Did Fraud Kill Megan Meier? by Fighter2</title>
		<link>http://instantreviewweb.com/?p=9#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Fighter2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are of the opinion (the 4 of us that run our site) that Mrs. Drew is suffering from a personality disorder.  Maybe destructive narcissism, sociopathy or borderline.  She's sick.  truly sick.

Do us a favor, when you have time, in our right hand column are the links to some of the stories or months of the stories of some of our cyberpaths.  Read through a few (Keith Clive, Gridney/ YidwithLid, Douglas Beckstead and Brad Dorsky spring to mind).  What Lori Drew did was exactly the same.

We hope you post more, just for poor Megan.  The vigilante justice is wrong but the Drews have serious problems and need immediate help. Yup, "inconvience" her - after she pushed a 13 year old girl to suicide.  And then telling the family to drop it - really typical unfortunately, of the cyberpaths we have written about.

BTW have you seen &lt;a href="http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Megan_Meier" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="http://meganhaditcoming.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"&gt; this&lt;/a&gt;?  Truly scary what sorts of people can own a computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are of the opinion (the 4 of us that run our site) that Mrs. Drew is suffering from a personality disorder.  Maybe destructive narcissism, sociopathy or borderline.  She&#8217;s sick.  truly sick.</p>
<p>Do us a favor, when you have time, in our right hand column are the links to some of the stories or months of the stories of some of our cyberpaths.  Read through a few (Keith Clive, Gridney/ YidwithLid, Douglas Beckstead and Brad Dorsky spring to mind).  What Lori Drew did was exactly the same.</p>
<p>We hope you post more, just for poor Megan.  The vigilante justice is wrong but the Drews have serious problems and need immediate help. Yup, &#8220;inconvience&#8221; her - after she pushed a 13 year old girl to suicide.  And then telling the family to drop it - really typical unfortunately, of the cyberpaths we have written about.</p>
<p>BTW have you seen <a href="http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Megan_Meier" rel="nofollow">this</a> or <a href="http://meganhaditcoming.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"> this</a>?  Truly scary what sorts of people can own a computer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Telling Lies: Did Fraud Kill Megan Meier? by admin</title>
		<link>http://instantreviewweb.com/?p=9#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment and the resource on this. i looked at your no remorse article on your blog.

it occurred to me after publishing this post that i completely missed one of the most amazing things about this whole thing.

this woman must have some serious issues if she could create a whole story to coincide with her "josh" character. to keep up a story like that for a couple of months knowing how much emotional damage she is causing is beyond sickening.

i think your article on lack of remorse made this more clear. she did comment "allegedly" to megans parents that she wished they would just drop it.

it was starting to inconvenience her that she has to deal with the repercussions of her actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment and the resource on this. i looked at your no remorse article on your blog.</p>
<p>it occurred to me after publishing this post that i completely missed one of the most amazing things about this whole thing.</p>
<p>this woman must have some serious issues if she could create a whole story to coincide with her &#8220;josh&#8221; character. to keep up a story like that for a couple of months knowing how much emotional damage she is causing is beyond sickening.</p>
<p>i think your article on lack of remorse made this more clear. she did comment &#8220;allegedly&#8221; to megans parents that she wished they would just drop it.</p>
<p>it was starting to inconvenience her that she has to deal with the repercussions of her actions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Telling Lies: Did Fraud Kill Megan Meier? by Fighter2</title>
		<link>http://instantreviewweb.com/?p=9#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Fighter2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our site deals with this all the time.  Cyberpaths who prey on other vulnerable adults via social media, online dating, reunion sites or just general chat rooms.  Its sick and has put many of the victims we have met into the hospital, trauma counseling, caused them to self harm, try to commit suicide.

This time the girl was 13 and the other person was an ADULT MOTHER with HER OWN DAUGHTER - which is even more heinous.  But no matter how old the victim - this needs to be seen as a serious crime.  The Mother in this case needs prison, her daughter needs counseling.

Please come to our site and give a read to some stories of predators and how they have destroyed people's lives and souls (list in right hand margin)

Our prayers to the Meier family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our site deals with this all the time.  Cyberpaths who prey on other vulnerable adults via social media, online dating, reunion sites or just general chat rooms.  Its sick and has put many of the victims we have met into the hospital, trauma counseling, caused them to self harm, try to commit suicide.</p>
<p>This time the girl was 13 and the other person was an ADULT MOTHER with HER OWN DAUGHTER - which is even more heinous.  But no matter how old the victim - this needs to be seen as a serious crime.  The Mother in this case needs prison, her daughter needs counseling.</p>
<p>Please come to our site and give a read to some stories of predators and how they have destroyed people&#8217;s lives and souls (list in right hand margin)</p>
<p>Our prayers to the Meier family.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 06:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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